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MULBERRY 'CHARLOTTE RUSSE'
Article by David
Mulberry trees have been grown in the UK dating back to Roman times but there are a large number of misconceptions about them. Firstly some truths, they are beautiful, large trees often reaching over 15m high depending on the variety. Aged examples display stunning gnarled and contorted branches.
As far as the fruit goes, one species is king for flavour, Morus nigra, commonly called the black Mulberry. White and red Mulberry fruits are most definitely second class and simply aren't sold in the UK for their fruit.
In 2017 the RHS gave a new hybrid type of Mulberry, 'Charlotte Russe', the title of Chelsea Plant of the Year. The plus points for this new tree was that it fruits on old and new wood, producing fruit in as little as a year after planting. Your normal Mulberry tree would take about eight years from an initial cutting to produce fruit.
Even more dramatic is the fact that 'Charlotte Russe' is naturally dwarfing, growing to an average height of only 1.5m / 5ft making it ideal for small gardens and container growing.
But the RHS forgot to do the one thing which actually mattered, taste the fruit! The plant supplied to them had only unripe fruit on it and unripe mulberries are notoriously bad tasting. In fact, there is an art in harvesting mulberries at exactly the correct time to get that ever-so-fruity taste.
How could the RHS do that you may ask, I have also asked the same question? But there is not one single mention of the flavour of this new hybrid reported in 2017. Possibly because no one at the RHS had ever tasted the fruit in the UK?
As at 2018, the only UK supplier of Mulberry 'Charlotte Russe' is Suttons. Their only reference to the taste of this variety is a mere two words - "great tasting". That's it, literally! Lots of superlatives about its size, its speed of growth etc. but only two words about its taste.
The cost of this new variety (only available through Suttons) is £17.99 plus £4.99 postage, totaling £22.98. And that's for a tree (if you call it a tree) which is 20cm / 8in high! That is truly, gob-smackingly, incredibly expensive, especially so because mulberry trees (including this variety) root almost 100% of the time from cuttings - propagation is almost foolproof.
Well, we have bought one, purely on the basis of maybe saving you the expense if it doesn't prove to live up to expectations. But maybe it will, who knows? So expect an update to this article in 2018.
If you have bought a Charlotte Russe mulberry and would like to leave your comments about it then please scroll to the end of this article, read comments from others and then send in your own.
Suttons don't state the full Latin name for this variety on their sales website, they simply call it Mulberry Bush Charlotte Russe. This is significant to us because from time immemorial, the only Mulberry tree fruit worth tasting is from the Morus nigra or black Mulberry. The other varieties are simply also-runs by a large margin.
We strongly suspect that Charlotte Russe is not a Morus nigra, it may be a one in a million chance interspecies hybrid, possibly between Morus nigra and a white Mulberry. But that seems very unlikely (if not impossible) because of the genetic make up of Morus nigra compared to other Mulberry varieties.
Genetically, Morus nigra has 308 chromosomes whilst other Mulberry trees have only 28 chromosomes making hybridisation between the two almost impossible. The Latin name of Charlotte Russe would seem to be Morus rotundiloba.
So far, we can find only one report on the internet of someone who has grown and tasted the fruits, the article can be found here. The lady who wrote the article (Beryl Randall) sums up the flavour as follows:
"When totally black they are juicy and taste very sweet but have absolutely zero flavour. When picked juuuuust before all the red vanishes they taste like a memory of mulberry, but have a slightly odd rubbery texture and not much in the way of juiciness".
Certainly, I will report back in 2018 with my own impressions. For others who have purchased this "tree" from Suttons I would be extremely grateful to receive your comments / questions. There is a form at the end of this page where you can send them to us.
FEBRUARY 1st 2018
The Muberry Charlotte Russe arrived from Suttons in a commendable six days after ordering and you can see below how it looked after unpacking it.
Mulberry Tree as delivered from Suttons February 2018
Yes it does look a bit bedraggled but at this stage of year it should really be dormant so its appearance is not out of order. What is rather surprising is the very small size of the tree given that it cost £22.98 including postage. Expect the next update in late February to early March when we pot it up. In the meantime, we will keep it outside but in a protected position and against a house wall.
APRIL 19th 2018
All the fruit trees on my allotment are bursting into life now, except one, the Mulberry "Charlotte Russe" from Suttons. I won't consign it to the compost heap just yet but to me it looks as dead as a dodo!
No sign of any buds at all. Very disappointed. I will give this tree a couple more weeks and if there is no sign of growth I will be asking Suttons for a refund. I will keep you updated.
COMMENTS / QUESTIONS LEFT BY OUR READERS
|Date: 17 October 2018||From: Ken|
|COMMENT: It's fruited this year ( second year). I sheltered the "Mulberry" in a cold conservatory winter only. We've got about 30 small, 2cm long fruits, the fully ripened black ones have very little flavour, the red ones have a slight sharpness but not mulberry flavour. Both are a strange marginaly gritty/rubbery texture. I'd agree that these taste nothing like a "proper" Mulberry fruit.|
|Date: 26 September 2018||From: D. Povey|
|COMMENT: Had Sutton's mulberry delivered in spring. We now have a thriving bush with loads of red berries. Don't know when they will be edible but happy with progress so far. I will advise progress. Wiltshire.|
|Date: 28 August 2018||From: Not Given|
|COMMENT: An update on my mulberry. It is now 4 foot high with a mass of small fruit. Hoping it survives this winter outside.|
|Date: 22 August 2018||From: Wendy|
|QUESTION: I've now seen my Mulberry through two seasons and am thoroughly
disappointed, plenty of leafy growth this year, two mulberries which did not ripen and were small compared to
the "real" thing. I'm thinking of writing to Sutton's for a refund, any thoughts?
RESPONSE: From the feed back I've had so far I have not heard of a single person who has harvested any decent fruit from this variety of tree. Either the tree dies or it lives but, like you, produces no useful fruit. I would ask for a refund because the tree is not fit for purpose.
|Date: 7 August 2018||From: Diane|
|COMMENT: I bought the Mulberry Charlotte Russe last year. The plant itself has grown well, it is in a pot and I put it in the greenhouse over the winter. My problem is the fruit, both last year and this year it has had about 8 very small fruit, too small to eat really, Suttons say it should fruit all summer, I have been feeding it but no more fruit!|
|Date: 22 June 2018||From: Cathryn|
|COMMENT: I was given one as a house warming present when I moved last June, planted it in the garden in about August and pruned it fairly heavily at Christmas time. It was dormant over the winter, but came back to life in April, now have a lively wee tree/bush standing about 1m high, with lots of new foliage and many berries ripening. Not sure about their flavour yet.|
|Date: 17 June 2018||From: Jackie H|
|COMMENT: Mine was in a large pot last September. Looked as dead as a dodo this April. Put it in a smaller pot in the greenhouse. Watered it. Sprayed the sticks. It is now going great guns. Doesn't seem to be hardy outside.|
|Date: 12 June 2018||From: AB|
|COMMENT: Ordered mine as soon as they were announced last year. It fruited like mad
on the windowsill, potted it on twice, then popped it in the ground last August. This year it didn't wake up until about
2 weeks ago.
There's a fair bit of die back from an admittedly harsh winter, but it now has half a dozen leaves and has put a couple of inches of new growth on. I suspect a lot of those who thought theirs was dead might just have not been patient enough.
The taste of the berries wasn't great last year though, hoping as it ages and now it's in the ground that might improve. One interesting thing is that this year's leaves are much bigger and much darker than last years, one was even more fig shaped that heart shaped. I'm in Durham, maybe further south it'd have broken dormancy a few weeks earlier and not suffered so much from the frosts - we were below -10 here for a few days.
|Date: 07 June 2018||From: John W|
|COMMENT: Received a Charlotte Russe mulberry as a gift on Monday of this week. By Thursday it looks sick with reddish rust or virus on the leaves.|
|Date: 01 June 2018||From: Margaret K|
|COMMENT: My Charlotte Russe arrived last summer and at first seemed healthy, putting on a lot of growth. This year, though, so far (June) it has precisely two leaves. I have asked for a refund.|
|Date: 29 May 2018||From: Dougal|
|COMMENT: We bought 2 Charlotte Russe last year and they have grown now to about 3ft and are bushy and bearing fruit. Will wait to see how the fruit tastes when it ripens however.|
|Date: 14 May 2018||From: Mary|
|COMMENT: Like others, I bought this plant last September. It's dead. Embarrassingly I bought two others as gifts ! I would love to have this plant but based on the comments from others and my experience it's just not worth it.|
|Date: 13 May 2018||From: Hilary|
|COMMENT: My Charlotte Russe, purchased last autumn is looking similarly dead, no sign on buds despite Sutton's claiming it fruits from the end of May! Have emailed Sutton's and am awaiting a response.|
|Date: 13 May 2018||From: Alison M|
|COMMENT: Having seen the mulberry Charlotte Russe at Chelsea last year, I persuaded myself to buy one. Along with many others I now realise, it looks as dead as a dodo, and armed with the feedback, I'll contact Suttons to see what they propose!!|
|Date: 12 May 2018||From: Sheila|
|COMMENT: I was about to order the mulberry Charlotte Russe and then saw your
website. After reading the comments I have decided not to bother.
I grew a mulberry from seed brought back from a Greek Island 9 years ago. It grows in a container and is around 4ft high. New growth is bursting from it, as usual. Thanks for your web site - it saved me from making a bad purchase. I'll stick with my home grown mulberry and hope for fruit from it one day.
|Date: 07 May 2018||From: maireadjoyce|
|COMMENT: I bought Charlotte Russe last year from Suttons delivered to Dublin in poor shape, badly wrapped soil was completely loose from the rot of plan, planted it on in good compost to date 7/5/2018, no sign of growth. Sent email to Suttons got no reply.|
|Date: 04 May 2018||From: Adele|
|COMMENT: Planted my Charlotte Russe Mulberry Bush two weeks ago, it looked like a lovely, healthy
plant. Checked it today, its leaves have gone brown and it looks like it's dying. I don't know why. It's in soil
that other fruiting plants are growing happily, unless it's the weather? I thought it was hardy though.
ANSWER: Suttons say they are fully hardy in the UK, and that's exactly what you would expect from a fruit tree. I strongly suspect that there is a problem with this tree from Suttons. Ask them for a refund is my advice.
|Date: 27 April 2018||From: John|
|COMMENT: BIRMINGHAM regarding this subject I had 2 of the Charlotte Russe
delivered last year planted them on the allotment they too don't seem to be making a move the buds look they are
drying up and it doesn't seem to be making a move. I was worried about its hardiness and came across this site. It's
now approaching the end of April surely it should be making some sort of movement. Will be complaining to Suttons.
ANSWER: I agree with you 100%.
|Date: 26 April 2018||From: Becky|
|COMMENT: We purchased 2 of these last year and have had the same issue. We
contacted Suttons this week and they are sending replacements out. We ordered another plant a few weeks ago and
this looks much better than the ones we originally received.
ANSWER: Thanks for that, I will contact them next week.
|Date: 23 April 2018||From: Tomas|
|QUESTION: I bought 3 Mulberry Charlotte Russe from Sutton's last year and no sign of any growth look
like dead sticks. Give it an other week then a refund from Sutton's or else
ANSWER: Interesting comment which matches my experience. I also have another reader who wrote to me direct before I added the comment section on this page, Their experience was exactly the same. It will be very interesting to know your experience of how Suttons respond to your request for a refund. Please do let me know how you get on.
This website is independent so can't match the number of viewers of the company backed websites such as Gardeners Word but neither are we a small website. If you have no luck with your refund request I will try and take the matter further, using adverse publicity if necessary. Maybe other readers will also chime in with their experiences of Mulberry Charlotte Russe from Suttons.
UPDATE: Suttons replaced Tomas's three mulberry trees after he complained.